Article 3601 of comp.sys.dec.micro: Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!almach.caltech.edu!shoppa From: shoppa@almach.caltech.edu (Timothy D. Shoppa x4256) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: PRO/350 Date: 20 Mar 1994 13:32 PST Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <20MAR199413320156@almach.caltech.edu> References: <2maov3$5p4@usenet.rpi.edu> <1994Mar19.124512.4939@muvms6> NNTP-Posting-Host: almach.caltech.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1994Mar19.124512.4939@muvms6>, copley1@muvms6.wvnet.edu (Ronald Copley) writes... > >This is true, but I am a mediocre MACRO-11 programmer, and it is a dying art. I >don't like DECUS C that much, due to the $130+ price from the DECUS library for >the media, etc. Micro-C, being written in C, is a good choice. DECUS C is available from many sites on the internet, Ron. A quick Archie search turned up: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/language/decus-C en.ecn.purdue.edu /pdp11/decus-C It's pretty nice... I've used it under RT-11 and RSX-11M and it's great for small-sized C programs. I wouldn't try compiling Gnu-emacs, though... Whoa... just had quite a quake here. A lot of shaking for 20 seconds, with some movement still going on! I think I'll walk over to the Geology buildings and watch the TV trucks pull up! Tim (shoppa@altair.krl.caltech.edu) Kellogg Radiation Lab, Caltech Article 2515 of vmsnet.pdp-11: Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Path: cs.utk.edu!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!news.mtholyoke.edu!world!mbg From: mbg@world.std.com (Megan) Subject: Re: C compiler for pdp11 (was: GCC on pdp11 ?) Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <199403231604.LAA26690@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 04:34:00 GMT Lines: 39 minow@apple.com (Martin Minow) writes: >Unless Megan changed RT11 or someone changed Decus C since 1984, it should >still build and run on RT11 (you probably need a 28K machine). RSTS flavor >should also work on both RSX and RT11 emulation (unless they changed >things), as well as on IAS. First off, I'm not the *only* person who had anything to do with RT-11 (just a little more outspoken here, I guess). And any changes we made I would hope didn't adversly affect programs. One thing which was added to V5.6 which won't be taken advantage of in DECUSC is the separate I&D space. I'm sure a knowledgable programmer could do something with it, but there wouldn't be any C modules which make use of the new programmed requests. >Hmm, 28K words == 56K bytes. Weren't those the good old days! Absolutely - I have always had a problem with all these big, fast machines for which people insist on writing *large*, *inefficient* programs. It practically negates the speed and size ... (Stepping higher on my soapbox...) If people coming out of school nowadays had an inkling of the *art* of computer programming rather than the *science* (uh-hem), there might be more efficient use of the new family of fast machines (pentium, powerpc, alpha) Megan (stepping off her soapbox) p.s. Good to see you, martin - long time... -- +--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry | Some people think I'm a vampire. | | Unix Support and Engineering Group | I'm not, I just keep their hours. | | Digital Equipment Corporation | |